In a world of green dreamers, everything is possible, even a perpetual motion machine.
They are over pessimistic about the future (climate emergency) yet over optimistic about their alleged solution (Green New Ordeal)
Every problem can and will be solved:
No sun, no wind -- no problem.
Too expensive batteries, too long to charge an EV -- no problem.
Brownouts and blackouts from renewables -- no problem: Candles and flashlights are romantic -- and you can sit around a campfire in your back yard cooking your meals, and singing Kumbaya.
To make green dreams come true, they write them on a piece of paper that says "Law" or "Regulation" on top, make a speech, and they are sure technology will find a solution to any feasibility problems.
This is the green paradise, where they are smarter than you, on every subject, and you need their direction to live your life "properly".
So if the energy used to make green hydrogen is greater than the energy that can be derived from green hydrogen, that's no problem.
Old fogies like me, who studied old fashioned engineering in the stone age, may not understand that.
In green dreams, anything is possible, and old fashioned science has become "obsolete".
The Result:
You live in reality (the present) and they live in a fantasyland (their imaginary future paradise).
Debate is impossible.
Unfortunately.